Dec 16, 2025
#181: Sam Burke, founder of Hale, joins Pat to break down how he and his team are building “the Sephora for men."
Sam shares his path from engineering and brain-aging research to startups, including becoming chief of staff to Bonobos founder Andy Dunn after a scrappy growth challenge. Great story.
They dig into the...
Dec 4, 2025
#180: Pat sits down with Erik Owen, president and founder of Oak Hill Business Partners.
After 20 years in corporate roles at companies like M&I, Johnson Controls, and Rockwell, Owen realized the “corporate sweater” fit, but it was itchy as hell. That friction pushed him into entrepreneurship, where he launched Oak...